On 2018-01-16 15:27:29 UTC, Deleted wrote:

imported from rhykox7XUfs

On 2018-01-16 15:28:43 UTC, Deleted wrote:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/tosdr/rhykox7XUfs/9OkDgbW3N4QJ Buckle up, this is kinda long. :\*

*Each data set has a bracketed number [x] for reference in discussion. Some
data sets will probably need to be combined together. My opinion is in
brackets (good) (bad) (note).*

For those unfamiliar with Steam*, they primarily sell digital downloads of
video games. They have user profiles and social interaction similar to any
other social media website. They will also soon be selling productivity
software (MS Office, etc.) and have a cloud storage service for pictures
and documents.*

Privacy Policy*
http://store.steampowered.com/privacy_agreement/

*[1]* (good) Steam's PP is a reasonable length, the page is readable, and
is split into sections with intelligible headings.

*[2]* (Is this something ToS;DR cares about?) An individual's information
that isn't personally identifiable can be shared without restriction. This
mainly affects their randomly sampled hardware surveys I believe.

*"Individual information" is information about a user or user’s machine
that is presented in a form distinguishable from information relating to
other users but not in a form that personally identifies any user or
enables the recipient to communicate directly with any user. Valve may
share aggregate and individual information with other parties without
restriction.*

*[3]* (good) No sharing personal info with 3rd parties for marketing
purposes.

*Valve will not share personally identifying information with third parties
for marketing purposes. *

*[4]* (good) Using your real name is optional.

*In some situations, personally identifiable information that users input
in connection with their use of Steam may be available to other users of
Steam. For example, during the creation of a Steam account, Valve collects
a user's email address and username, and at the user's option, first and
last name. Some of this information is searchable and available to other
users within Steam. Valve has no obligation to keep private personally
identifiable information that a user makes available to other users via
Steam or other Valve software, such as in multiplayer chat or other public
functions. *

*[5]* (note) No promise for transparency on law enforcement or government
requests.

*Valve may release personally identifiable information to comply with court
orders or laws that require us to disclose such information. In the event
of a reorganization, sale or merger we may transfer personally identifiable
information to the relevant third party.*

*[6]* (good!) Can request review and/or removal of personally identifiable
info.

*If you are concerned about the accuracy of personally identifiable
information maintained by Valve or wish to review, access, amend or correct
it, or would like your personally identifiable information removed from
Valve's records or otherwise deactivated, please contact us here. We may
decline requests that are unreasonably repetitive, require disproportionate
technical effort, jeopardize the privacy of others, or are extremely
impractical.*

*
Subscriber Agreement*
http://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/

*[7]* (bad!) Valve has an unlimited use license on all user generated
content without need for attribution. This survives termination of the
agreement. Sounds pretty much the same as Facebook.

Section 6
*Subject to the Valve privacy policy referenced in Section 1 above, as
applicable, you expressly grant Valve and its affiliates the complete and
irrevocable right to use, reproduce, modify, create derivative works from,
distribute, transmit, broadcast, and otherwise communicate, and publicly
display and perform the User Generated Information and derivative works
thereof in any form, anywhere, with or without attribution to you, and
without any notice or compensation to you of any kind.
*
*[8]* (bad) Defend and indemnify Valve. Survives termination of the
agreement.

Section 8
*You agree to defend, indemnify and hold harmless Valve, its licensors, and
its and their affiliates from all liabilities, claims and expenses,
including attorneys' fees, that arise from or in connection with breach of
this Agreement or the use of Steam or any Subscription, by you or any
person(s) using your Account, or from or in connection with any User
Generated Information, or the creation, distribution, promotion and use of
any Mods or Derivative Works, created or provided by you or any person(s)
using your Account. Valve reserves the right, at its own expense, to assume
the exclusive defense and control of any matter otherwise subject to
indemnification by you. In that event, you shall have no further obligation
to provide indemnification to Valve in that matter. This Section regarding
Indemnification shall survive termination of this Agreement.*

*[9]* (good) Will notify users via email or Steam client when subscriber
agreement is changed - agreement is auto-accepted 30 days from notification
if account isn't canceled.
*[10]* (bad) If you choose to cancel your account because of an agreement
change all subscriptions (purchased games) are canceled and no refund given.

Section 9
*Valve may amend this Agreement (including any Subscription Terms or Rules
of Use) at any time in its sole discretion. If Valve amends the Agreement,
such amendment shall be effective thirty (30) days after your receiving
notice of the amended Agreement, either via e-mail or as a notification
within the Software. You can view the Agreement at any time at
http://www.steampowered.com/. Your failure to cancel your Account, or cease
use of the Subscription(s) affected by the amendment, within thirty (30)
days after receiving notification of the amendment, will constitute your
acceptance of the amended terms. If you don't agree to the amendments or to
any of the terms in this Agreement, your only remedy is to cancel your
Account or to cease use of the affected Subscription(s). Valve shall not
have any obligation to refund any fees that may have accrued to your
Account before cancellation of your Account or cessation of use of any
Subscription, nor shall Valve have any obligation to prorate any fees in
such circumstances.*

*[11]* (good) A user can voluntarily cancel their account at any time.
*[10]* (bad) Subscriptions (purchased games) cancelled because of account
cancellation can't be transferred or refunded.

Section 10:B
*You may cancel your Account at any time. You may cease use of a
Subscription at any time or, if you choose, you may request that we
terminate your access to a Subscription. However, Subscriptions are not
transferable, and even if your access to a Subscription for a particular
game or application is terminated, the original activation key will not be
able to be registered to any other account, even if the game or application
was purchased in a retail store. Access to Subscriptions purchased as a
part of a pack or bundle cannot be terminated individually, termination of
access to one game within the bundle will result in termination of access
to all games purchased in the pack will be removed from the account. Your
cancellation of an Account, or your cessation of use of any Subscription or
request that access to a Subscription be terminated, will not entitle you
to any refund, including of any Subscription fees.*

*[12]* (bad) Valve can cancel your account at any time for any reason.
*[10] *(bad) Subscriptions (purchased games) cancelled because of account
cancellation can't be transferred or refunded.

Section 10:C
*Valve may cancel your Account or any particular Subscription(s) at any
time. In the event that your Account or a particular Subscription is
terminated or cancelled by Valve for a violation of this Agreement or
improper or illegal activity, no refund, including of any Subscription
fees, will be granted.*

*[15]* (note) Non-EU subscribers: Legal action happens in Washington state.
EU subscribers: Legal action happens in Grand Duchy of Luxembourg.

Section 11
*For Subscribers other than EU Subscribers:*
*You agree that this Agreement shall be deemed to have been made and
executed in the State of Washington, and any dispute arising hereunder
shall be resolved in accordance with the law of Washington. Subject to
Section 12 (Dispute Resolution/Binding Arbitration/Class Action Waiver)
below, you agree that any claim asserted in any legal proceeding by you
against Valve shall be commenced and maintained exclusively in any state or
federal court located in King County, Washington, having subject matter
jurisdiction with respect to the dispute between the parties and you hereby
consent to the exclusive jurisdiction of such courts. In any dispute
arising under this Agreement, the prevailing party will be entitled to
attorneys' fees and expenses.

For EU Subscribers:
You agree that this Agreement shall be deemed to have been made and
executed in the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg and that it is subject to the
laws of Luxembourg, excluding the law of conflicts and the Convention on
Contracts for the International Sale of Goods (CISG). However, where the
laws of Luxembourg provide a lower degree of consumer protection than the
laws of your country of residence, the consumer protection laws of your
country shall prevail. In any dispute arising under this Agreement, the
prevailing party will be entitled to attorneys' fees and expenses.*

*[16]* (bad) Lawsuit and class action waiver. Binding arbitration. Survives
termination of agreement.

Section 12
*YOU AND VALVE AGREE TO RESOLVE ALL DISPUTES AND CLAIMS BETWEEN US IN
INDIVIDUAL BINDING ARBITRATION. THAT INCLUDES, BUT IS NOT LIMITED TO, ANY
CLAIMS ARISING OUT OF OR RELATING TO: (i) ANY ASPECT OF THE RELATIONSHIP
BETWEEN US; (ii) THIS AGREEMENT; OR (iii) YOUR USE OF STEAM, YOUR ACCOUNT
OR THE SOFTWARE. IT APPLIES REGARDLESS OF WHETHER SUCH CLAIMS ARE BASED IN
CONTRACT, TORT, STATUTE, FRAUD, UNFAIR COMPETITION, MISREPRESENTATION OR
ANY OTHER LEGAL THEORY.

However, this Section does not apply to the following types of claims or
disputes, which you or Valve may bring in any court with jurisdiction: (i)
claims of infringement or other misuse of intellectual property rights,
including such claims seeking injunctive relief; and (ii) claims related to
or arising from any alleged unauthorized use, piracy or theft.

This Section does not prevent you from bringing your dispute to the
attention of any federal, state, or local government agencies that can, if
the law allows, seek relief from us for you.

[...]YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YOU AND VALVE ARE GIVING UP THE RIGHT TO SUE IN
COURT AND TO HAVE A TRIAL BEFORE A JUDGE OR JURY.

YOU AND VALVE AGREE NOT TO BRING OR PARTICIPATE IN A CLASS OR
REPRESENTATIVE ACTION, PRIVATE ATTORNEY GENERAL ACTION OR COLLECTIVE
ARBITRATION, EVEN IF AAA's PROCEDURES OR RULES WOULD OTHERWISE ALLOW ONE.
THE ARBITRATOR MAY AWARD RELIEF ONLY IN FAVOR OF THE INDIVIDUAL PARTY
SEEKING RELIEF AND ONLY TO THE EXTENT OF THAT PARTY'S INDIVIDUAL CLAIM.*

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On 2018-08-30 08:43:03 UTC, import script ⁽⁴⁾ Bot wrote:

scripted message: please link to a quote

On 2018-09-05 08:33:58 UTC, import script ⁽⁴⁾ Bot wrote:

scripted message: moving this point to Madeline

On 2018-10-14 11:14:25 UTC, (deactivated) ⁽¹⁾ Suspended wrote:

Curator here. The import script and information from the google group indicates that this is actually several different points. Please break into distinct points.

On 2019-05-12 12:37:38 UTC, jan ⁽²⁶⁾ Staff wrote:

declined: Meanwhile both the Steam Subscriber Agreement and the Privacy Policy Agreement are in the documents, so this is obsolete.